What Happens When The Planets Align

Welcome back.

Once again, I promise you that this piece has information not posted anywhere else before.

UPDATE 10/27/2012 – Thank you American Thinker, for the link.  Please know that this particular “post” is only a “scratch-pad” of sorts for the research I did on the Barack Obama newspaper birth announcements.  The main piece of information that resulted is that in the ten day period included in the original study – later expanded to a two month range – is that the ONLY time both newspapers published the birth notices in exact matching order, only one day apart, occurred on the dates that obamas’ birth was announced.  If you have time please read the original article at the pink link below – there is so much more there.  Thank you for reading.

Here are the graphs featuring the two sister publications, the Honolulu Star Bulletin and the Honolulu Advertiser,  showing the frequency of the two papers cross-publishing birth announcements.  This was done, as I stated in my last post, (a must read,) “Extra, Extra, Announcing obama’s Birth”http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/extra-extra-announcing-obamas-birth/ in a ten day sample size, covering Aug. 08,1961 to Aug. 18, 1961.   obama’s birth announcement fell roughly in the center of that ten day range.

Final installment also up, 7/09:

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/wheres-sherlock-holmes-when-you-need-him/

Recall:

“It has been advanced that both papers printed identical lists as the general rule.  As I mentioned before, this was pointed out to add more “weight” to the (ahem) proof these newspaper birth announcements lend to obama’s birth story.  As it turns out it was done more or less sporadically.   You see, when I decide to research something I don’t do a half- assed job of it.  So I pulled a sample size of ten days from each paper.  I began the splendidly tedious process of comparing the incidence of the same birth announcements being listed in both papers.  Mainly with an eye towards how often they matched in exact order.The only time this occurred in that particular way within the ten days that I researched, was on the dates that had obama’s birth announcements.

And I even took the extra steps of comparing editions to a three day range (edition before, same date, edition after) of the sister publication.  So, I tried to cover all the bases in a fair comparison.”

HERE ARE THE RESULTS:

Bar graphs show the date of the publication (Honolulu Star Bulletin) and the number of announcements that were cross published in the Honolulu Advertiser over a three day range, (represented in the blue bars) and  the number of announcements that were NOT cross published at all.  This is a basic bar graph and does not indicate how many of these matches were in the EXACT same order in both papers.  That information is provided below the graph section, in percentages.  Also the “raw data” that was worked from will be posted below that.

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Aug. 8th Honolulu Star Bulletin had a total of 56 births listed.

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Aug 9th Honolulu Star Bulletin had a total of 4 births listed.

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No birth announcements were found in the 8/10/61 or 8/11/61 Honolulu Star Bulletin

No birth announcements were found in the 8/11/61 or 8/12/61 Honolulu Advertiser

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Aug. 12th Honolulu Star Bulletin had a total of 17 births listed.

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Aug. 13th Honolulu Star Bulletin had a total of 21 births listed.

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Aug. 14th Honolulu Star Bulletin had a total of 57 births listed.

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Aug. 16th Honolulu Star Bulletin had a total of 18 births listed.

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Aug. 17th Honolulu Star Bulletin had a total of 129 births listed.

NEXT:

Percentages of EXACT matches, in the same EXACT descending order, in the same starting point in the birth announcements.

Honolulu Star Bulletin Data % of exact matches:

8/08/61- 56 births. to 8/08 Hono. Adv. ((which has a total of 50 births)) – 0%

to 8/9 Hono. Adv. ((which has a total of 76 births)) – 0%

to 8/10 Hono. Adv. ((which has a total of 82 (?) births)) – 0%

8/09/61- 4 births. No matches to 8/08, 8/09, 8/10 Hono. Adv. – 0%

8/12/61- 17 births. to 8/14 Hono. Adv.((which has a total of 48 births)) – 0%

8/13/61- 21 births. No matches to 8/10, 8/13,8/14. – 0%

8/14/61- 57 births. The first twenty-five match (in exact same order)  ALL twenty-five announcements in the  8/13 Hono. Adv.,

So, although the Star Bulletin does not have a 100% match (it is 43.9%, reason: there were only 25 announcements total in the Hono. Adv.) THE HONOLULU ADVERTISER, HAS A 100% MATCH TO THE 8/14/61 STAR BULLETIN, in the same descending order. This is the one and only time this occurred in the ten day sample range. Remember that the first obama birth announcement was found in the HONOLULU ADVERTISER.  On a few other dates, there is a full match, but not in exact order.   And those are not located in the same place within the column of announcements.

8/16/61- 18 births. to  8/17 Hono. Adv. ((which has a total of 203 births)) – 0%

8/17/61- 129 births. to 8/16 Hono. Adv. ((which has a total of 67 births)) – 0%

to  8/17 Hono. Adv.  ((which has a total of 203 births)) – 0%

So, we can safely surmise that when Lori Starfelt, the person who claims to have been the first to discover obama’s Honolulu Advertiser birth announcement, made this statement:

“In 1961, the hospitals would take their new birth certificates to Vital Records. At the end of the week, Vital Records would post a sheet that for the news paper to pick up that contained births, deaths, marriages and divorces. The Advertiser routinely printed this information in their Sunday edition. This is not a paid announcement that his grandmother could arrange. This is information that comes from Vital Records – we know this because this particular section reflects those records”

SHE WAS EITHER GROSSLY MISLED OR OUTRIGHT LIED!

Overall percentages of cross published birth announcements:

Honolulu Star Bulletin to the Honolulu Advertiser

8/08/61 – 8/08 – 10.7%

- 8/09 – 32.1%

- 8/10 – 14.3%

No match in range – 42.9%

8/09/61 – 8/08 – 0%

- 8/09 – 0%

- 8/10 – 0%

No match in range – 100%

8/12/61 – 8/09 – 0%

- 8/10 -0%

- 8/13 – 0%

No match in range – 100%

8/13/61 – 8/10 – 0%

- 8/13 – 0%

- 8/14 – 0%

No match in range 100%

8/14/61 – 8/13 – 43.9%

8/14 – 56.1%

So, a 100% match between the two dates.

8/16/61 – 8/15 – 0%

8/16 – 0%

8/17 – 100%

No match in range – 0%

8/17/61 - 8/16 – 10.9%

8/17 – 26.4%

8/18 – o%

No match in range – 62.7%


RAW DATA that the graphs and percentages were developed from:

Honolulu Star Bulletin Data:

8/08/61- 56 births. Six are cross posted (not in exact order) in the 8/08 Hono. Adv.((which has a total of 50 births))

Eighteen (not in exact order) are posted in the 8/9 Hono. Adv. ((which has a total of 76 births))

Eight are posted (not in exact order)  in the 8/10 Hono. Adv.((which has a total of 82 (?) ))

8/09/61- 4 births. No matches to 8/08, 8/09, 8/10 Hono. Adv.

8/12/61- 17 births. All seventeen match (not in exact order) 8/14 Hono. Adv.((which has a total of 48 births))

8/13/61- 21 births. No matches to 8/10, 8/13,8/14.

Three match (not in exact order) 8/17 Hono. Adv.((which has a total of 203 births))

8/14/61- 57 births.  The first twenty-five match (in exact same order) to the twenty-five announcements in the  8/13 Hono. Adv., the remaining thirty-two match (NOT in exact same order) to the 8/14 HA ((which has a total of 48 births)).

8/16/61- 18 births.  All match (not in exact same order)  to the 8/17 Hono. Adv. ((which has a total of 203 births))

8/17/61- 129 births. Twenty-one match (not in exact order) to the 8/16 Hono. Adv. ((which has a total of 67 births))

Thirty-four match (not in exact order) to the 8/17 Hono. Adv.  ((which has a total of 203 births))

Please allow for a slight margin of unintentional error.  This project was done in my spare bits of time!

Just another coincidence? 

.Above is a film box photo in a library in Hawaii – sent by a traveler, below is the film box containing the same date/newspaper, but at the Library of Congress.  I took the picture below while I was collecting the copies for my research.  This was the only box out of several dozen that I handled which had  the original numbers obscured.

I WISH TO STATE THAT I AM NOT MAKING A CLAIM THAT I HAVE FACTUAL PROOF THESE MICROFILMS CONTAINING BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR obama ARE TAMPERED WITH.   I HAVE DISPLAYED ON THIS BLOG, OVER FOUR SEPARATE POSTS, A PORTION – THAT MOST DIRECTLY RELATING TO obama’s BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS – OF THE MATERIAL THAT I HAVE COLLECTED.  I HAVE DIRECTLY SHARED COPIES AND PDF’S OF MY RESEARCH WITH OTHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THEIR OWN RESEARCH, THEIR CONCLUSIONS AND OR CLAIMS ARE HOWEVER, THEIR OWN.

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33 Responses to “What Happens When The Planets Align”

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  2. Thank you for all your hard work! what the heck mor do pople need???????????

  3. Thank you so much. You may be seeing an increase in your blog traffic….LOL

  4. This needs to be sent to attorneys ASAP! For example, Apuzzo: http://puzo1.blogspot.com/

    And others need to hear about this. Time to spread this around again.

    • LOL, are you making an offer kittycat? If so, THANK YOU. I confess that I’m about wore out for a day or two.

  5. I’m trying to spread it right now.

    • Wonderful! Thank you. This post still needs a bunch of tweaking, but WordPress is being a pain today.

  6. In response to an older blog you wrote

    “(Ed.) This made me think. Hummm.

    “I was reading an email from a Russian aristocrat this past week which was not that interesting as all patricians are blow hards and Meghan McCain idiotry. This woman though asked me a question which was puzzling her in Moscow as much as the Breitbart story which noted that the Chinese majority could care less about Obama, as all they cared about was Chinese people.

    This Russian woman was asking “Where is Obama?” as in she was wondering if it was some strategy that Obama was in hiding, because he was no where to be seen on Russian television.
    She noted that she saw more Japanese on her news broadcasts than she did Americans. That Barack Obama had vanished.
    She also wondered to me why on earth Americans ever voted for him as he was not that impressive.”

    COULD THE REASON FOR NOT SHOWING OBAMA IN THE MEDIA IN RUSSIA IS BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WOULD BEGIN TO REMEMBER HIM FROM LIVING THERE IN 1989-ISH ERA? MAKES ONE WONDER ABOUT THE RUMORS OF A ROMAN OBAMA REALLY BEING BARACK OBAMA. JUST A THOUGHT…..

    • Actually motley, that is a snip from Lame Cherry’s blog that I found interesting. I personally think the reason is simply that they feel he is a flash in the pan, not worth paying attention too. :)

  7. Just more evidence of outright fraud!! How much longer are the American people (incouding those in the Government and the Judiciary) going to let this travesty progress???

    Get that sonofabitch out of MY White House!!!

    • I believe it will continue until they have achieved their goals. Unless ordinary people like ourselves get off of our collective asses.

  8. Well, looks like on FR this may have hit a nerve with the BO Net-Farce Police. Now we can get into FR where Greg says this is going viral. So watch your place. Someone’s into some hanky-panky here. All I can say is, the t-u-r-d-s!

    • It’s been zipped by multiple people in multi locations. As I always take precautions :).

  9. Sorry, meant to say “can’t get into FR”

    I can’t type sometimes.

  10. Oh, maybe you said this, and if you did, I just don’t remember, but you have more research that isn’t up yet, right? I’m just curious.

    Thanks

  11. Maybe need a bigger “n.” 10 days may not be statistically significant. It is an interesting trend nonetheless. Also, are you saying that the microfiche were swapped or altered in both places? If so, are there more microfiche out there? Or actual newspapers? Or I’m not following what you are suggesting.

    • It has been claimed that the papers printed the identical names in the same or next edition of the sister publication. While it frequently occurred that some identical announcements were cross published within a day or two, I felt the ten day range was sufficient to show if it was or was not common to print 100% and in exact descending order.

      • Er, was the reported date a weekend? Could your range be five days before and after which would have been week days and perhaps less info and out of sync? You did a great job,,, Now what does it mean? Fraud? You did not answer the second half of my question on whether or not you think these microfiche files were tampered with.

        • Well Jimbrown, I did not answer your question on if I think these were tampered with because I posted this material strictly as a research piece. I did not want to have my own opinion influence anyone else. I want the material to speak for itself, and I feel that it does. Unfortunately even with all this available, we now have more to question than ever before! A case of “be careful what you wish for”.
          The ten day range could easily be expanded as I have nearly two months worth of these announcements, obama’s announcement falling roughly in the middle. I felt the date range was sufficient to indicate if the occurrence was or was not the way these announcements were usually published. However, I did just take a quick glance over the weekend before obama’s announcements and the pattern of exact match is not on that weekend. So, it’s not a weekend specific occurrence either.
          Do I think that there is much that is out of the ordinary? Yes.

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  14. From Wikipedia, verified at http://newspaperdeathwatch.com/2010/05/r-i-p-honolulu-advertiser/ .

    “On February 25, 2010, Black Press, which owned the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, purchased The Honolulu Advertiser from Gannett Pacific Corporation… On May 3, 2010, a new company setup by Black Press, HA Management, took over operations of [The] Advertiser and merged it with the Star-Bulletin on June 7, 2010, to form the Honolulu Star-Advertiser.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Honolulu_Advertiser

    “Approximately 453 jobs were eliminated in the consolidation, leaving a combined staff of 474.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honolulu_Star-Advertiser

    Do you suppose the Star-Advertiser kept onboard any employee who was disgruntled about the cover-up?

    • Actually I heard about the purchase being arranged in December.

      Which was also about the same time that the Fox personalities, Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly, started insulting “birthers”. They both pointed to the obama newspaper birth announcements as additional “proof” that “birthers” were off track. As a matter of fact, there was a sudden increase in “birther bashing” at that time from many quarters. I have wondered if it had anything to do with this:

      SNIP:

      Tarek El-tablawy, AP Business Writer, in a report published by Yahoo News, on Sunday, Jan 17, 2010, wrote:

      Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a nephew of the Saudi king and who was listed last year by Forbes as the world’s 22nd richest person, met with News Corp.’s chief executive Rupert Murdoch on Jan. 14 in a meeting that “touched upon future potential alliances with News Corp.,” according to a statement released by his Kingdom Holding Co. late Saturday.

      And then the whole “Vexatious Requester” bill that Hawaii rolled out at about the same time.

      As far as any cover-up, I do not have an opinion. Although, it would seem unwise to can someone if they were aware of any wrongdoing.

  15. Could this be true? If so what can be done?http://theghostfighters.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/tim-adams-chief-elections-clerk-exposes-obama-birth-certificate-scandal/

  16. I really have to congratulate you here on your site for this great work. Thank you for the time and effort.

  17. Very timely research. Thank you

  18. I have been away, have I missed anything? Are you still working on this? I HOPE! You have done so much! I am just getting itchy for more!
    Blessings and Prayers……

    • Hi Charlene,

      Have you read the whole “Sherlock Holmes” post yet(link is at the top of this post)? That has been updated with most of the info from my last research trip of a few weeks ago.

      I don’t have a whole lot more that I can add to this research. I have a few things I am still waiting on verification for, and checking on some small supporting info, but I have no idea if or when that will be available to me.

      I mainly posted this research because I hoped it might be helpful to those out there who are still searching for more answers.

      I will continue to do what I can to work on my “little project”, there may be only so much that I can get at though.
      :)

  19. Please note the disclaimer added at the bottom of this post today.

    As follows:

    I WISH TO STATE THAT I AM NOT MAKING A CLAIM THAT I HAVE FACTUAL PROOF THESE MICROFILMS CONTAINING BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR obama ARE TAMPERED WITH. I HAVE DISPLAYED ON THIS BLOG, OVER FOUR SEPARATE POSTS, A PORTION – THAT MOST DIRECTLY RELATING TO obama’s BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS – OF THE MATERIAL THAT I HAVE COLLECTED. I HAVE DIRECTLY SHARED COPIES AND PDF’S OF MY RESEARCH WITH OTHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THEIR OWN RESEARCH, THEIR CONCLUSIONS AND OR CLAIMS ARE HOWEVER, THEIR OWN.
    I DO NOT ENDORSE ANY CLAIMS MADE BY ANY OTHER PERSON/PERSONS IF THOSE “CLAIMS” ARE NOT INCLUDED IN MY OWN RESEARCH WORK PRESENTED IN THIS BLOG.

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      The Birther Summit issues an alert to the people of Honolulu, HI for someone who may very well be in possession of an original newspaper for which we will pay $5000! An original copy of the August 13, 1961 edition of The Honolulu Advertiser or the August 14, 1961 edition of the Honolulu Star-Bulletin will earn the first bearer $5000.

      Those are the editions of the newspapers in which the purported birth announcement of Barack Obama appeared, and while we understand that the announcement’s inclusion in those newspapers would not be conclusive proof that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii (as there were circumstances that would have allowed for them to appear without a Hawaii birth actually occurring), the only evidence anyone has actually seen of the birth announcements has been copies of microfiche versions of those newspapers, and they contain suspicious anomalies. As with the vault version of Obama’s birth certificate (which has still not been forensically verified as being a valid document), we would like an opportunity to inspect one of these actual newspapers rather than purported representations of them.

      The Birther Summit is aware that the existence of an original copy of one of these two newspapers might be fairly unlikely; however, August 13, 1961 was also the day that the first reports of the Berlin Wall’s construction appeared in newspapers around the globe. For that reason, we believe that someone in Honolulu may have saved and stored a copy of one of them.

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