Cliven Can’t Haz Cows



By now you may have heard about the standoff in Nevada, on a cattle ranch, between our Federal government and the owner of the ranch, Mr. Cliven Bundy.

Sadly this is such a votive situation that it may end horribly – as in Ruby Ridge or Westboro Baptist – HA! I meant fricken WACO – horribly.  sorry for the mix up, heh

Only this time the government isn’t hiding it’s “motive” behind stories that paint the targeted citizens as a danger to society – but instead as a danger to the desert turtle.  And they have all but dropped that pretense as they have converged on Mr. Bundy’s ranch and his family.

Turns out the “endangered turtle” had lost it’s funding some time back, and in the interest of saving some cash while opening up that turtle territory for exploitation, the government which swore to protect these turtles have been KILLING them instead. Yes, that is the truth.  So now they move against the Bundy ranch without the turtle as a shield and so their naked greed and murderous intentions are laid clear.

The few “news” outlets that have reported on this, Fox in particular, have done so without full understanding of the background regarding the decades long fight the Bundy’s have experienced. Fox in particular has been pretty ridiculous in turning this into a debate between the “feel-good” side of the Citizen v. The Governmant, and the fact that the Bundy’s haven’t paid the BLM (Bureau of Land Management) a grazing fee for many years – so The Government is well within it’s rights to stop Mr. Bundy from grazing cattle on the public land according to the pretty lady on Fox.

As is almost always the case there is much more to it than just the two sides in that example debate.  I found a comment in a thread on the Weasel Zippers blog and it contains a statement from one of the Bundy daughters which explains pretty clearly the facts of the decades long fight with our overreaching and greedy government.  It also gives insight into the potential motive behind the aggression towards the Bundy’s.

Think about the fact that the head of the BLM is newly appointed, and see how the newbie is so heavy handed.  Pay attention to how Harry Reid treats the situation as one of no consequence although he has been very involved in the whole turtle shuck and jive.

Now hear the back story of the fees and the Bundy Ranch, H/T Sam1247:

Statement from Shirlee Bundy-
“I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it is in a nut shell.

My great-grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These
rights to the land use are called preemptive rights. Somewhere down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be used to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements
of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve.

Instead they began using these money’s against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with their own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a (pittance) he said “no thanks”, and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which
they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes.

In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well, when buying him out didn’t work, they used the endangered species card.  You’ve already heard about the desert tortoise. Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now they’re desperate. It’s come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything they’re doing at this point is illegal and totally
against the constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying,” how sad, but what does this have to do with me?” Well, I’ll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it’s Utah’s turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.

Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them (the BLM), those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even existed. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove
them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Auction and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are? Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks”

So is it silly for me to point out that any remaining desert torti are likely smashed flat as a cow pie from all the government vehicles driving over their delicate environment?  Erph.  Is it unsettling that the Feds have a BACKHOE going in there amongst other equipment – like dump trucks?  You DON’T load cattle in dump trucks to be transported, most especially with a backhoe – not unless they are dead first.  How will the cows get dead?  Why are the Feds planning on transporting dead cows?  Do they have a right to KILL the cattle?  And as Mrs. Bundy (?) pointed out  – the herds are being separated, and the little baby cows are being left alone in the scorching heat.  They will quickly die without the mother cow.

And the local law, the Governor, the elected officials of Nevada all kick at the dirt, while taking no stand, without asserting sovereignty of the State or local government/citizenry.  Whoop – I am wrong, for Mr. Harry Reid, NV Senator, did weigh in on the matter:




~ by ladysforest on April 11, 2014.

4 Responses to “Cliven Can’t Haz Cows”

  1. Mark Levin has an excellent show on about the Bundy’s situation! (Mon. 6:00PM)

  2. Unlike Rush, who has danced around the edges of aka obama’s identity fraud and ineligibility and has only cowardly ignored the subject, but not stooped to outright denigration (I think he is sympathetic, but he seems to consider the cause to be largely pointless), Mark Levin has viciously attacked as cranks and crackpots those who believe that the Constitutional meaning of natural born Citizen is to be born without conflicting allegiances (typically born in country to citizen parents). Mark Levin is a flaming a-hole hypocrite and a fraudulent self-proclaimed Constitutional expert who actually is either an ignorant fool or a knowing liar about the meaning and obvious critical importance that the person serving as our nation’s leader be a natural born Citizen.

    For these reasons, if anything Mark Levin does or says seem excellent, I would take it as an accident and with a very large grain of salt.

    • >>> From August 24, 2011

      “Mark Levin: Obama Not Qualified; I Don’t Mean Constitutionally; I’ll Leave That To The Goofballs”
      More on Mark Levin:

    • 🙂 I agree with you about Levins position re natural born Citizen. It seems to me that people like Levin, Limbaugh, Hannity, don’t want to take even a slightly risky stand. The fact that laws have been passed to give dual-citizens and those born out of the US but to US citizens/citizen citizenship rights equal to natural born citizens give people a good excuse to be ignorant. ( I apologize for that awkwardly worded sentence) They believe that the laws “define” the meaning of natural born, or have expanded the meaning to legally include people like Ted Cruz. I do not share that belief. NO WHERE is there any amendment to our Constitution recognizing that those contemporary laws apply to the eligibility requirements, and none of those laws implies such.

      The only question that needs to be answered for ME is whether our founders did indeed mean nbC to require citizen parents/US soil or if simply born on US soil was sufficient. I believe that it means parent/soil, but since the “definition” can still be argued in the absence of a historical reference written around the time of the creation of our Constitution, we still have the conundrum. People forget that it wasn’t a “legal” term, it was an everyday term understood by everyone ….. back then.

      We have seen though, with the rise of Ted Cruz, that the current simplified understanding of “native-born” equating natural-born, is being further modernized to include all those born simply a US citizen under contemporary law.

      Ted Cruz is advancing this falsehood instead of insisting on digging out the truth. It is why I will never support him. He is another obama. Opportunist, smooth talker, and corrupt. If he really loves this country he would be honest about this instead of using the “birther” controversy to his own political advantage.

      What I like this particular Levin show was that he gave a well rounded and well researched explanation about what the government was doing to the Bundy’s Ranch and Bundy’s actions and position. It was one of the best explanations I have heard – Fox is largely backing the government and Reid, and not at all factual. It’s been frustrating trying to get real info on the situation because everyone wants to spin it – even the Bundy’s, but at least I can appreciate their motive.

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