Sheriff “Show Me Something” Sends Zullo To Honolulu

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http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/hawaii-five-o-sheriff-joe-sends-detectives-to-honolulu

This article popped up last night – I’m guessing that most of you have read part, or all of the following article by now.  I will do excerpts, the full article can be found at the link above.  Following the WND material is a little gift for you.  Make sure that you read all of it, it is very enlightening and will OPEN your eyes to the way that Hawaii operates.  Trust me, you are going to be glad you read it.

From World Net Daily:

Hawaii Five-O: Sheriff Joe sends detectives to

Honolulu

In a major development in his probe of Barack Obama’s eligibility for Arizona’s 2012 presidential ballot, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has dispatched his lead Cold Case Posse investigator and a deputy detective to Hawaii.

The mission to Obama’s purported birthplace comes as the Hawaii Department of Health continues to resist efforts by Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett to verify that the Honolulu agency has a valid birth certificate on file for Obama.

Recall the recent (actually, ongoing) controversy surrounding the Arizona Secretary of State’s request to Hawaii:

“I asked the state of Hawaii for a Verification in lieu of certified copy. We’re merely asking them to officially confirm they have the President’s birth certificate in their possession and are awaiting a response.”-Ken Bennett

Well, the good Secretary of State, Mr. Bennett was dissed.  Like hard core dissed.  Hawaii ignores him for EIGHT long weeks, then SOS Bennett does a little talking on a radio show, and…..bingo…..Hawaii springs into action.  If you want to call insulting the intelligence of the AZ Secretary of State springing into action.

PHOENIX — The state of Hawaii has responded to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett’s request for proof that President Barack Obama was in fact born in the Aloha State.

The Hawaii attorney general’s office has reportedly told Bennett that there are steps he needs to take in order to confirm President Obama’s birth records.

Those steps include Bennett proving that he legitimately needs confirmation in order to update the records at his office.

Get that – LEGITIMATELY NEEDSAnyway, back to Sheriff Joe sending the Cold Case Posse off to Hawaii.

Excerpts:

Zullo’s investigation is a volunteer effort, but the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office has sent him to Hawaii with an MCSO deputy detective for safety reasons and to act as a liaison between MCSO and local law enforcement.

WND reporter Jerome Corsi is embedded with the investigators in Hawaii with the provision that reporting during the trip be curtailed to protect the investigation.

Arpaio told WND Friday that the Hawaii Department of Health’s refusal to confirm to Bennett that it has a valid Obama birth certificate on file makes it look like Hawaii officials “are hiding something.”

AND

Zullo told WND Friday that Hawaii’s refusal to comply “is just another outright, glaring display of stonewalling that the Sheriff’s Office has encountered since Day One conducting this investigation.”

Zullo said “common sense at this point should be everyone’s guide.”

“If this was a non-issue, it wouldn’t be going on eight weeks waiting for the state of Hawaii to verify anything,” he said.

AND

Zullo told WND that Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office investigators have spoken at length with Bennett regarding the president’s birth record. Zullo said his team spoke with Bennett as recently as last week.

“We are in the beginning stages of enlightening him to critical information that the sheriff has acquired during this investigation,” Zullo said.

The balance of the article is largely rehashing the work the Cold Case Posse has already released.

There is something more that corresponds with all of this.  As I mentioned above, this is some good stuff:

 Here is the exchange between SOS Bennett and Hawaii, obtained by Talking Points Memo:

On Monday, TPM filed a public records request for the correspondence between the Hawaii government and the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office. The results show Bennett and his staff grew ever more impatient with the slow pace of Hawaii’s response before the secretary finally took to a local conservative radio talk show on Thursday to voice his concerns.

“Hello Jill. I just left you a brief voice mail message,” Arizona Deputy Secretary of State Jim Drake wrote in an email to a Hawaii attorney on May 1. “I am wondering whether you can give me a ballpark timeframe on our request. As you know, the closer we get to November, the more my phone rings. I believe that having Hawaii’s response on hand might help to quell the inquiries!”

Deputy Attorney General Jill Nagamine’s response? “We need more information to substantiate that you are eligible to receive verification.”

MORE ON THE CORRESPONDENCE, Source is TPM, Full article is at pink link:

Here now is the correspondence chain, starting with an email from Nagamine, the Hawaii deputy attorney general, which apparently followed a phone conversation between her and Bennett. The secretary’s first written request comes after that. Also included at the end are two emails Bennett sent to birthers who had been heckling him about the fact that Obama was still on track to be on Arizona’s ballot. TPM has edited out things like home addresses, email addresses and phone numbers.

From: Jill T. Nagamine
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:15 PM
To: Bennett, Ken
Subject: Link to Hawaii laws and the Department of Health webpage

Hi Ken—

So sorry I’ve taken so long to get back to you. I may take a few more days to get your final response about what we can verify and how we will do so. I have been tied up with some legislative deadlines that take precedence. To start with, here are the links that I mentioned to you.

The first link is to the Department of Health’s website that was created in response to the high volume of inquiries about the President’s birth certificate. It includes the press releases issued by the former Republican-appointed Director of Health.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

The second is to section 338-18, Hawaii Revised Statutes, which governs the confidentiality of vital records. Let me direct you to paragraph (g) which relates to verification of records.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm

Another link is to section 338-14.3, Hawaii Revised Statutes, which pertains to verification.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0014_0003.htm

The last link is to all of chapter 338, Hawaii Revised Statutes, Hawaii’s vital statistics law.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/

Jill T. Nagamine
Deputy Attorney General
State of Hawaii

March 30, 2012

Hawaii Department of Health
Office of Health Status Monitoring
Vital Records Issuance Section
P.O. Box 3378
Honolulu, HI 96801

Ladies and gentlemen:

Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

Department of Health File #151 61 10641
Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
Age of father: 25
Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
Age of mother: 18
Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961

Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

Sincerely,

Ken Bennett
Arizona Secretary of State

From: Bennett, Ken
To: Jill T. Nagamine
Date: 04/16/2012 01:48 PM
Subject: RE: Link to Hawaii laws and the Department of Health webpage

Dear Jill,

Thank you for speaking with me several weeks ago and providing the helpful links below. I sent a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy of President Obama’s birth record to the Dept. of Health on March 30th. I was just wondering if you knew whether the request was received and how long it usually takes to process? Thanx.

Ken Bennett
Arizona Secretary of State

From: Jill T. Nagamine
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:39 PM
To: Bennett, Ken
Subject: RE: Link to Hawaii laws and the Department of Health webpage

Ken—

Thank you for this heads up. This is the first I heard of it. I will check with my client to see if they received your request.

Jill

Jill T. Nagamine
Deputy Attorney General
State of Hawaii

To: Jill T. Nagamine
From: Drake, Jim
Date: 05/01/2012 11:52AM
Subject: Request from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office

Hello Jill. I just left you a brief voice mail message. I am wondering whether you can give me a ballpark timeframe on our request. As you know, the closer we get to November, the more my phone rings. I believe that having Hawaii’s response on hand might help to quell the inquiries! Thanks in advance. Jim

Jim Drake
Deputy Secretary of State

From: Jill T. Nagamine
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:11 PM
To: Drake, Jim; Bennett, Ken
Subject: Re: Request from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office

Dear Mr. Bennett and Mr. Drake—

My apologies for not responding immediately. I have recently been away from my office a great deal, including today. My client, the Department of Health, has forwarded your request for verification of President Obama’s birth record to me. We need more information to substantiate that you are eligible to receive verification. Hawaii Revised Statutes, section 338-18(g), provides:

(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:

(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes.

As the Secretary and I initially discussed, it appears that you might be eligible for verification of the record based on subparagraph (2), but we need to see what your authority is “to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of your activities.” Will you send me a copy of your law that allows this, and will you send me information that shows:

(1) What list are you updating?
(2) Is it your normal procedure to update all entries on your list by requiring birth data verification?
(3) Are you requiring birth data verification of all entries on your list, rather than just targeting one name on your list? (please provide evidence that you are doing so)

You may address your response directly to me, and I will relay it to my client.

Thank you,
Jill T. Nagamine
Deputy Attorney General
State of Hawaii

From: Bennett, Ken
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:12 PM
To: Jill T. Nagamine; Drake, Jim
Subject: RE: Request from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office

Dear Ms. Nagamine:

As the chief elections officer for the State of Arizona and pursuant to Arizona Revised Statutes, sections 16-212, 16-301, 16-502, 16-507 and others, my office is tasked with quadrennially compiling a list of candidates for the Office of the President of the United States. This list is then officially “certified” by my office and transmitted to the fifteen counties for creation of the official ballots. The list is generated in the “ordinary course” of my office’s activities (every four years) and it is certainly made for a “legitimate government purpose” (elections).

Based on the above representation, I believe that my office has strictly and expressly complied with all of the elements found in Hawaii Revised Statutes, section 338-18(g).

I understand your client’s initial trepidation in responding to this request given the significant amount of email, fax and phone call traffic that this issue has spawned. My office too has received numerous constituent requests and I agree with Director Fuddy’s assertion in her letter of April 25, 2011 that the sheer volume of inquires has “been disruptive to staff operations and have strained State resources.” However, I am concerned that a rejection of a request by another State’s chief elections official will dramatically exacerbate an already untenable situation.

Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

Ken Bennett
Secretary of State

From: Jill T. Nagamine
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:38 PM
To: Bennett, Ken
Subject: RE: Request from the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office

Dear Mr. Bennett:

I am in receipt of your email dated May 17, 2012. As I have informed you and Mr. Drake, Hawaii law requires that for verification of a vital record the requestor must satisfy the requirements of section 338-18(g), Hawaii Revised Statutes, which provides:

(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:
(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes.

I asked you for legal authority that establishes your right to obtain verification, and your email of May 17, 2012 provides me with references to Arizona Revised Statutes 16-212, 16-301, 16-502, 16-507, and unnamed others. These statutes seem to deal with election of presidential electors, nomination of candidates for printing on official ballot of general or special election, form and contents of ballot, and presentation of presidential candidates on ballot, but none, as far as I can tell, establish the authority of the Secretary of State to maintain and update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of his activities. I researched other sections of the Arizona Revised Statutes and was unable to find the necessary authority.

If I have missed something, please let me know. My client stands willing to provide you with the verification you seek as soon as you are able to show that you are entitled to it.

Thank you,
Jill T. Nagamine
Deputy Attorney General
State of Hawaii

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/ken_bennett_birther_hawaii_arizona_emails.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

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~ by ladysforest on May 22, 2012.

18 Responses to “Sheriff “Show Me Something” Sends Zullo To Honolulu”

  1. lF , tell me your thoughts. Are you encouraged?

    • Getting there. I have spoken with Zullo. He is very professional, very focused, seems meticulous. I don’t think much gets past him.

  2. http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/ken_bennett_apologizes_obama_birther_hawaii_arizona.php

    What do you think?

    • What I thought before – that SOS Bennett will run away like a little fucking girl. He did before, and when you preface anything with “I’m not a Birther”, we all know he is as useful as a dildo made out of cotton candy.

      I hope I didn’t offend.

      • Don’t know…we need to put out positive thoughts …. Seriously let’s stay positive for now, it’s never looked better

        • Joe and the Posse are the only ones I have put faith in. The SOS I figured would be bitch slapped into “behaving”, but it would have been nice if he at least had the stones to tell the public about the problem HI was giving him. He should have made that PUBLIC and put the shame where it belongs.

    • I can’t believe that the Hawaii DOH, supposedly having gone on the record concerning BHO’s BC, would stiff a SOS like this. And I bet that Arizona’s SOS is thinking exactly the same thing. This is a red flag and he might just hold the Hawaii DOH’s feet to the fire.

      Asking for verification is a smart route to go. There could have been some manuveuring/switch out with the BC supposedly obtained by the WH and posted online. The modifications to the DOH records are not widely known and can be controlled in house. None of the facts requested for verification were included in the signed letter on DOH letterhead carried by the lawyers with the “BC”. On hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html, the DOH refers the reader the white house site to view the BC. They are not on record about any of the information contained in the BC and have parsed around making a statement that BHO was born in Hawaii. Now they will have to go on record and they don’t want to do it.

      AP reported that Hawaii claims to have coughed up the verification. It will be interesting to see what they provided.

  3. You didn’t offend at all. Oh well… see what Joe has to say next but somehow, I don’t see anything panning out.

    Ladysforest:Fixed! Well, I corrected the existing ones, any new ones may need correction as well – don’t know why that happened. Different computer?

  4. I think if anyone pans out, it will be Sheriff Joe, et al. I have read recently, can’t remember where, that they have always been working on this mess. Note the fact that it may not always be an easy road considering the flake the sheriff and the investigators are getting now, which is probably the reason why he’s getting the flake in doing this and not getting it for the illegals to be honest.

    Anyway, one thing that I do have is hope. I hope that their investigation works out. I think that “hope” is a wonderful thing. May be a lot of thing now to hold out for now is “hope” that it works out. No, I’m not quoting the Shawshank. I’m thinking of “hope” in the terms of the Scriptures.

  5. I think we should invest a bit in prayer now. I rarely ever go preachy, but kittens, this is the time to REALLY ask for help – and we had better mean it when we do.

  6. Now Hawaii says that it sent AZ proof of Obama’s birth. Here’s the real kicker, I just don’t believe it’s proof. See, BO has lied so much that if he ever tells the truth, why believe him? It’s going to take more than something like that from Hawaii.

  7. Here is a snip from an article:

    (05-22) 22:21 PDT Honolulu (AP) —

    The state of Hawaii has verified President Barack Obama’s birth records to Arizona’s elections chief after a nearly three-month back and forth that Arizona officials said could have ended without the incumbent’s name on its November ballot.

    Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press in an email late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for.

    Hawaii — which has vouched for Obama’s birth in the state several times as early as October 2008 — didn’t bow to the request easily. The Aloha State told Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett he had to prove he needed the records as part of normal business.

    Wisch says Hawaii got what it needed, so it gave Bennett’s office the verification.

    It’s not immediately clear whether the information will satisfy Bennett. Bennett spokesman Matthew Roberts said the office received the verification and planned to comment Wednesday.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/05/22/national/a214050D02.DTL#ixzz1viUgdKwe

    So, what happened is that the HI people were playing “show me first” with AZ, and running them around in circles. Then AZ goes on the radio, so HI runs them around some more – but at least pays attention to them. Then Sheriff Joe sends Zullo in, and suddenly HI has a conference call with AZ. The result of that call was that HI told AZ what to REMOVE from the requested line items on the verification he wanted, and “verified” only that obama was “born in HI”.

  8. Looks like AZ will comment today – that means that Bennett will say what John McCain told him to say.

  9. Here is the verification from HI – in PDF :

    http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf

  10. It means nothing to me. They are all liars, and Bennett probably just wants to believe it so bad.

    • Either HI is completely on the level with this verification, or Alvin fell on his sword. Lets go with the “on the level” and that still leaves this huge question of why has obama fought so damn hard on this one stupid little thing? Would that idiot REALLY make such a thing into a potential liability? His cult members assure us that obama set the whole controversy up to “make people look crazy”, and that they are charmed by this.

      Why would a person who was seeking to be elected make a conscious decision to try and “make people look stupid/crazy”? Why hatch such a risky plan? That has never rung quite right.

      There is still a mystery here. There are the forged documents. There are the missing documents.

  11. And then there’s all the references in past articles and whatnot about him being born in Kenya. So either he was lying then or he’s lying now or both.

    • Both. I have always felt that Kenya was not very likely – based on logistics alone. Barack Sr. was a broke ass. Stanley Ann was a broke ass kid. Likely she had Chicago Jesus in Canada if not HI. I could see going through all this crap to hide something about your birth circumstance, I can see propping up your “International Man Of Intrigue” image with lies about being born in Kenya to a goat herder. I can get if he played dodge ball with it for a few months or a year.

      I cannot see creating an entire head fake just to make a handful of people look silly. It hasn’t helped obama in the least, not even if he makes a few minor and middle-sized politicians look silly. It has NO potential to HELP him in any way. Which is the thing that has always kept me so interested. Something like this is done on purpose and for a real reason. The risk to play keep away with his birth records, etc., was a BIG risk and for many reasons. Why create such a situation simply to put egg on the face of a relatively small number of people. Why take the risk of appearing so strangely petty and childish?

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