Timing Is Everything

Something is interesting to me.  obama the undocumented worker-bee gets elected.  The whole of the House and Senate are standing with their hands clamped over their mouths about the meaning of the “natural born citizen” requirement to be President.

Now, I’ve always had a theory or two on that, and none of them is more outrageous than these:

some are chicken-shit, some are plotters, some are dumb and don’t care who knows it.

And I have always felt that some were interested in setting a precedent.  Yes, a lovely little precedent.  Just like these citizen imbeciles who are insisting that since Chester Arthur was  born of a father who was likely not a citizen at the time of his birth,  obama is in the clear on this natural born citizen requirement ~ because it’s already been done by one president. The precedent was set, they say.

So, now is the perfect time to follow up on that precedent.

(slightly off topic, but relevant) Most people don’t realize that the vice-prez has to meet the same constitutional eligibility requirements as the president.

12th Amendment

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

But I digress.  We all know that obama is promoting this One World Order thing, which ought to scare the soul out of any person, because a more sinister notion does not exist.

An American President would never sign on to that.  But a President of divided loyalties would.

“Just think Mr. President, of those poor people in your dual identity homeland.”  “Think”, comes the whisper, “of what you can do for all of them and what a savior they will consider you”.  But wait, he can only manage that if the USA is part of the NWO.

Is this thing of putting forward two NON natural born citizen Republicans to consider as potential front runners for the 2012 Presidential race part of the behind the scenes manipulation toward the NWO?  Or is it in part cover for the Republicans that have steadfastly looked the other way on obamas qualification problems?

So, Mr. Jindal was born to two Indian citizens, six months after their arrival in the United States.  Neither of them were US citizens at the time, of course, but were here legally.  That makes Mr. Jindal a naturalized citizen according to the 14th Amendment.  Certainly not a natural born citizen.

John Bingham, Judge AG who tried the Lincoln conspirators and Ohio Congressman, was the principal author of the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment had nothing to do with natural born citizenship, but for completeness, Bingham clarified the meaning of the term in his address to the House promoting his 14th Amendment:

I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….

Mr. Marco Rubio.  Parents are both from Cuba.

In 1971, Marco was born in Miami to Cuban-born parents who came to America following Fidel Castro’s takeover.

I found this:

Additionally, it is difficult for a Cuban American to take an overly strident stand on immigration given the special status Cubans have enjoyed as a matter of law for decades. Simply setting a foot on dry land makes a Cuban immigrant legal.

So, his parents were not considered “illegal” but instead were refugees.  I have searched for hours for information on his parents citizenship status.  I have not found anything anywhere stating that they ever obtained their US citizenship.  I think that if they had, it would be out there.

While I like both Jindal and Rubio, and respect them, neither are natural born citizens.  If either of them entertains the idea of running, they go on my shit-list.

On to McCain.  Just for clarity on his shit.  TWO candidates that were ineligible per the Constitution were selected to run in the same year.  That in and of itself is very remarkable, and speaks of something sinister and manipulative.

SR 511 does NOT define Natural Born Citizen.  But it does manage to contradict itself.

Here it is:


Whereas the Constitution of the United States requires that, to be eligible for the Office of the President, a person must be a `natural born Citizen’ of the United States;

Whereas the term `natural born Citizen’, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;

Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;

Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the `natural born Citizen’ clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen’;

Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;

Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States. __________________

Alexander Hamilton proposed to make any citizen of the United States eligible for the Office of the President so long as the age and residency requirements were also satisfied. John Jay objected and asked for the qualifications to require a natural born citizen requirement. The erroneous analysis omits the obvious distinction that a natural born citizen requirement is superfluous and quite unnecessary if the intent was to authorize any U.S. citizen to be eligible to the Office of the President. Even the English Common law being cited required two citizen parents for the child to be deemed to have English/British citizenship by jus sanguinnis.

The whole issue was about a determination of which sovereign could claim the allegiance of a child at the time of the child’s birth. Dual citizenship was not recognized and was an impossibility at the time the laws and the U.S. Constitution were written and practiced. It is quite clear whether using Charles Vattel’s Law of Nations, blacksone’s Commentaries, or the ancient laws and traditions of Roman law common to Europe and America; citizenship followed the citizenship of the parents or the father, unless you were born in the Jurisdiction of the Sovereign of Great Britain. Under the naturalization laws of the some states after the adoption of the U.S. Constitution, birth upon U.S. soil sometimes was not enough to qualify for citizenship in that state and thereby the United States.

The person presently calling himself Barack Hussein Obama II is on public record acknowledging that his father was a citizen of Great Britain at the time of his own birth. Vattel’s Law of Nations used by John Jay and the other authors of the U.S. Constitution defined a natural born citizen as the child of two parents having U.S. citizenship at the time of the child’s birth. Obviously, even he acknowledges that he did not have the requisite two U.S. citizen parents and undivided loyalty to the United States at the time of his birth.

November 06, 2010 2:52:21 AM by WhiskeyX
Another notable coincidence is that both Jindal and Rubio are persons of color.

It has been one of my personal suspicions that obama was elected in part because the NWO would never believe a typical “old white man” US President would sell to the global stage.  It had to be shown that the US had progressed to where it could shed itself of it’s hereditary pro-nationalism, good old white boy mentality, so that the other member nations could think we were ripe for inclusion in that New World Order “club”.
If we go back to a qualified natural born citizen, one who is a white male, then the merger is in danger.
I personally don’t give a flip if the next President is non-Caucasian, male or female.  Just that they are truly a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN who is devoted to the strength and sovereignty of this United States.

Our future under Progressives – get yourself some.
This is what a weak president has brought us to.  Do we want to acquiesce?   Do we want this to be or new normal?

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~ by ladysforest on November 18, 2010.

4 Responses to “Timing Is Everything”

  1. It is possible that Rubio’s parents went through the naturalization process and maybe took a sworn oath. If they did not then you are on the mark. For Jindal it would seem it is clear that his parents were NOT citizens at the time of birth. He has no claim to jus sanguinis via either parent (unlike Obama).

    Jindal probably does not want to thrust himself into the nbC issue but if they keep batting his name around for POTUS he needs to step and say – “hey, I am not even eligible according to AII…”. This would bring the nbC issue of the current person holding the office of POTUS to light since it would force the discussion on jus sanguinis in the mainstream.

    • I keep trying to find something on Rubio’s parents. The only thing that I found was where he said that they had always hoped to be able to return to Cuba some day. But I am hoping that if anyone finds info on his parents having been naturalized they give me a shout.

      I am not trying to bust on anyone here, but especially after this whole obama nightmare I think it’s critical that this issue gets addressed.

      Jindal is a clear case, neither parent being a citizen at the time he was born. No question with him. Sadly, I doubt he has the integrity to bring that issue to the fore. He’s a nice person, but not, I think, Presidential material regardless.

  2. Great article! I couldn’t agree more.

    • Thank you Kathy

      It’s so weird to me that Jindal skirts any mention of eligibility. EVERYONE knows this issue is out there, everyone in politics keeps ignoring the elephant in the room. He continues to state that he’s not running, but he is beginning to act as though he is.

      I still can’t find anything about if, or when, Rubio’s parents were ever nationalized.

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