(7) Some Tropical Truth
an exclusive YouTube vid (taken in the DOH in Honolulu) is near the bottom of this post ~ this was collected by a colleague at my request
SPECIAL NEW UPDATE: , while it is NOT the long form birth certificate that the woman in this video is ordering, it supports the content of this video. Tons of stuff!! Must see!!
A Certification of Live Birth, COLB, is the “document” that was posted on the Factcheck website as PROOF that barack Hussien obama was indeed born on US soil (jus soli). Most people accept that the COLB is the abbreviated version of the “standard” or long form birth certificate.
It has been stated on record, by Janice Okubo, at the Communications Office, Hawaii State Department of Health, that the long form birth certificate, otherwise called the “Certificate of Live Birth” can’t be had.
Hawaii Star Bulletin:
June 6, 2009
“Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”
Answer: No, you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.
The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.
The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.
And, it’s only available in electronic form.
Let’s not forget this minor controversy:
We know that DoH had previously told the Israeli Insider that birth certificates were not issued electronically. Sometime later, the DHHL [Department of Hawaiian Home Lands] site was changed to say that they are ONLY issued electronically, the same day (ish) that this article (above) was run. Prior to the period of June 6, 2009 ~ June 10, 2009, when the DHHL website instructions were quietly changed, this is what the original requirements were for the DHHL application:
In order to process your application, DHHL [Department of Hawaiian Home Lands] utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.
When requesting a certified copy of your birth certificate from the Vital Records Section of DOH, let the clerk know you are requesting it “For DHHL Purposes,” and that you need a copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth and not the computer-generated Certification.”
It now says this:
“Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth”.
This seems a bit of a contradiction, as they state that the original birth certificates are in fact generated by acknowledging that they exist (and are preferred), that they are no longer issued. Mystery solved. A simple word game. It’s not that they don’t have them on file, it’s that they don’t issue them automatically when a person requests a copy of their BC.
We all know that loyal obamaists’ point to these things to prove how crazy “birthers” are for insisting that obama release his original long form birth certificate. They say, “Hawaii doesn’t HAVE any other form of birth certificate than the COLB that was on Factcheck. You can’t even get one if you ask”!
Well Kittens. A long form Hawaiian birth certificate can absolutely be had if you specifically request it.
Here ya go. I provided a transcript for the woman, I could not make out what the man was saying. The recording device has marginal audio capabilities, so if you want to hear what the woman says, you will need to crank it up. I do not have the equipment to extract the mans words, or clean up the audio so that you can more easily hear the woman. Although you do not hear the part where she makes the request for the long form, the fact that she did so is made clear by her comments. This was collected by a colleague at my request
“Alright, (crackling) Do you……how long does it take? Is there an expedited fee? Or…… Cause I can come back…I can come over and pick it up in person too. It’s just (inaudible) …it’s just right across the street (inaudible) cause it turns out…all I,… I thought I had it, but all I have is that Certificate of Live Birth, it’s not the same. You said it’s ten dollars? Yes sir. ”
PS. I have to go on a search for it, but not long ago Hawaii changed the language on the COLB from Certification of Live Birth to Certificate of Live Birth ~ so now both forms of the birth certificate have the same title. Which explains why the woman thought she had the proper form for her requirements, then found that the abbreviated COLB was insufficient. Answer provided by Epicurious in comments: “Sometime in October 2008.”
In case you missed it, the investigator asks the clerk for the Late/delayed index and or the Foreign index, and also asked if the birth indexes she had already viewed were “all inclusive?” The clerk stated; “We don’t have Late or Foreign indexes”.
OH REALLY ??
Ummmm…..why not? We have proof that those exist. Why is she telling the public that they don’t have them?
MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRIP DURING WHICH THIS VIDEO WAS COLLECTED IS IN THIS POST:
THE LINK TO THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF THIS POST (with commentary):
~ by ladysforest on October 14, 2010.